The claim: Located on the Illinois River off Interstate 80 on Hwy 6. It is a relatively small facility with a cap of 1400 prisoners. Though it is small it is designed like prison facilities with barred windows, but the real smoking gun is the presence of military vehicles. Being located on the Illinois River it is possible that prisoners will be brought in by water as well as by road and air. This facility is approximately 75 miles west of Chicago. National Guard training area nearby.
What it really is: A completely bogus claim. There is no prisons at all located here, and in fact the only places near by that might be large enough to be mistaken for a prison, and is also located along the river, is Independence Tube Corporation, or Glen-Grey Brick.
Thursday, February 28, 2013
Land Between the Lakes, Kentucky
The claim: This area was declared a UN biosphere and is an ideal geographic location for detention facilities. Area is an isthmus extending out from Tennessee, between Lake Barkley on the east and Kentucky Lake on the west. Just scant miles from Fort Campbell in Tennessee.
What it really is: Yes, it is part of the UN biosphere program (the actual name is the "Man and the Biosphere Programme") but the site itself is not controlled by the UN. It is controlled by the United States Forest Service, and is a National Recreation Area, which means it's open to the public.
It should also be noted that it is the last place in the United States that became part of the Man and the Biosphere Programme, and that was in 1991.
What it really is: Yes, it is part of the UN biosphere program (the actual name is the "Man and the Biosphere Programme") but the site itself is not controlled by the UN. It is controlled by the United States Forest Service, and is a National Recreation Area, which means it's open to the public.
It should also be noted that it is the last place in the United States that became part of the Man and the Biosphere Programme, and that was in 1991.
Ft. Knox, Kentucky
The claim: Detention center, possibly located near Salt River, in restricted area of base. Local patriots advise that black Special Forces & UN gray helicopters are occasionally seen in area.
What it really is: There are lots of places at Fort Knox that are restricted (such as the United States Bullion Depository) and places open to the public (like the General George Patton Museum of Leadership).
As for the claim of a detention center being located near Salt River, I've looked along the river using Google Maps, and I can't find anything that looks like a prison camp, just some roads, some cleared out areas for training, and a few small buildings.
As for the black Special Forces and UN gray helicopters claim, these claims are not backed up by reliable sources, and is most likely a hoax.
What it really is: There are lots of places at Fort Knox that are restricted (such as the United States Bullion Depository) and places open to the public (like the General George Patton Museum of Leadership).
As for the claim of a detention center being located near Salt River, I've looked along the river using Google Maps, and I can't find anything that looks like a prison camp, just some roads, some cleared out areas for training, and a few small buildings.
As for the black Special Forces and UN gray helicopters claim, these claims are not backed up by reliable sources, and is most likely a hoax.
Manchester, Kentucky
The claim: Federal prison camp located inside Dan Boone National Forest.
What it really is: There is a medium security Federal prison with a minimum security camp called the FCI Manchester, but it is not locate inside Dan Boone Nation Forest due to the sheer fact that the Dan Boone Nation Forest is not near Manchester.
What it really is: There is a medium security Federal prison with a minimum security camp called the FCI Manchester, but it is not locate inside Dan Boone Nation Forest due to the sheer fact that the Dan Boone Nation Forest is not near Manchester.
Lexington, Kentucky
The claim: FEMA detention facility, National Guard base with adjacent airport facility.
What it really is: The only thing the National Guard controls in Lexington is a recruitment office in a shopping center there, and no airport is next to it either.
What it really is: The only thing the National Guard controls in Lexington is a recruitment office in a shopping center there, and no airport is next to it either.
Louisville, Kentucky
The claim: FEMA detention facility, located near restricted area US naval ordnance plant. Military airfield located at facility, which is on south side of city.
What it really is: There is an airfield near there, but it's the Louisville International Airport.
As for the US naval ordnance plant itself, The site is mostly controlled by private contractors and companies, with less then half a dozen buildings still under control of the US Navy.
What it really is: There is an airfield near there, but it's the Louisville International Airport.
As for the US naval ordnance plant itself, The site is mostly controlled by private contractors and companies, with less then half a dozen buildings still under control of the US Navy.
Ashland, Kentucky
The claim: Federal prison camp in Eastern Kentucky near the Ohio River.
What it really is: Yes, there is a Federal prison camp there. It's a minimum security prison camp and is apart of the low-security FCI Ashland Federal prison.
What it really is: Yes, there is a Federal prison camp there. It's a minimum security prison camp and is apart of the low-security FCI Ashland Federal prison.
Friday, February 22, 2013
Fort Wainwright, Alaska
The claim: East of Fairbanks
What it really is: Actually it's inside Fairbanks city limits.
With the exception of perhaps the Bassett Army Community Hospital, nothing there looks like something you would find on a prison camp, and considering that it is within the city limits, it would be hard hide a prison camp there.
What it really is: Actually it's inside Fairbanks city limits.
With the exception of perhaps the Bassett Army Community Hospital, nothing there looks like something you would find on a prison camp, and considering that it is within the city limits, it would be hard hide a prison camp there.
Eielson AFB, Alaska
The claim: Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility.
What it really is: It's a large Air Force base that's only a couple of miles from Fairbanks, and has a highway running through it.
There are family housing units there, and none of the buildings there looks like what you would find in a typical prison camp.
What it really is: It's a large Air Force base that's only a couple of miles from Fairbanks, and has a highway running through it.
There are family housing units there, and none of the buildings there looks like what you would find in a typical prison camp.
Elmendorf AFB, Alaska
The claim: Northeast area of Anchorage - far end of base. Garden Plot facility.
What it really is: It's an Air Force base within Anchorage that was built right before World War Two.
The base itself is pretty compact for an Air Force base, but still, none of the buildings look like something from a prison camp, and actually look like what you would find on a typical Air Force base.
Also, it would be pretty hard to hide prison camp around a city as large as Anchorage.
What it really is: It's an Air Force base within Anchorage that was built right before World War Two.
The base itself is pretty compact for an Air Force base, but still, none of the buildings look like something from a prison camp, and actually look like what you would find on a typical Air Force base.
Also, it would be pretty hard to hide prison camp around a city as large as Anchorage.
Wilderness, Alaska
The claim: East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000
What it really is: I was about to brush this off as being not having enough information, but I decided to go to one of these FEMA camp websites that actually had the location pinned on Google maps, and I took a look at the pinned location in satellite view, and the only things I found around there were a few houses and roads, a highway, and nothing that can hold half a million people.
What it really is: I was about to brush this off as being not having enough information, but I decided to go to one of these FEMA camp websites that actually had the location pinned on Google maps, and I took a look at the pinned location in satellite view, and the only things I found around there were a few houses and roads, a highway, and nothing that can hold half a million people.
East Yellowstone, Wyoming
The claim: Manned internment facility - Investigating patriots were apprehended by European soldiers speaking in an unknown language. Federal government assumed custody of the persons and arranged their release.
What it really is: First let me ask, "Why would the United States be using foreign soldiers for?" That does not make any sense.
Considering how many people visit Yellowstone every year (about 3.4 million, many of them European) it would be pretty hard to keep such facility there hidden from public view.
Considering that there is no exact location of this alleged facility or details, by all appearances this story is most likely made up.
What it really is: First let me ask, "Why would the United States be using foreign soldiers for?" That does not make any sense.
Considering how many people visit Yellowstone every year (about 3.4 million, many of them European) it would be pretty hard to keep such facility there hidden from public view.
Considering that there is no exact location of this alleged facility or details, by all appearances this story is most likely made up.
Southwest, Wyoming
The claim: near Lyman - FEMA detention facility
What it really is: This claim appears to be bogus.
I've taken a look around the area and other then a few schools and large churches, I can't find any buildings that might resemble a prison camp around the area.
What it really is: This claim appears to be bogus.
I've taken a look around the area and other then a few schools and large churches, I can't find any buildings that might resemble a prison camp around the area.
Saturday, February 16, 2013
Wilderness areas, Idaho
The claim: Possible location. No data.
What it really is: Due to the sheer fact that there is no data about this, nor is there no general location (just says it is in a wilderness area, which there is a lot of in Idaho) this claim appears to just be made up.
What it really is: Due to the sheer fact that there is no data about this, nor is there no general location (just says it is in a wilderness area, which there is a lot of in Idaho) this claim appears to just be made up.
Clearwater National Forest, Idaho
The claim: Near Lolo Pass - Just miles from the Montana state line near Moose Creek, this unmanned
facility is reported to have a nearby airfield.
facility is reported to have a nearby airfield.
What it really is: Using Google maps in satellite view I can find no airfields in the general area, nor does it appear that an airfield could be put there to begin with due to the terrain.
There is also very little in the way of structures in the area, nor are any of the structures large enough to house a prison camp.
This claim is bogus.
Minidoka/Jerome Counties, Idaho
The claim: WWII Japanese-American internment facility possibly under renovation.
What it really is: The Japanese internment camp that is being refereed to is called the Minidoka National Historic Site, and is formerly known as the Minidoka War Relocation Center.
The site itself was very large, and held over 9,000 people there during World War Two. In 1979 the site was listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and in 2001 it was listed as a National Park, which means that it is open to the public.
In 2006 money was granted by the government to restore the site for historical purposes.
What it really is: The Japanese internment camp that is being refereed to is called the Minidoka National Historic Site, and is formerly known as the Minidoka War Relocation Center.
The site itself was very large, and held over 9,000 people there during World War Two. In 1979 the site was listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and in 2001 it was listed as a National Park, which means that it is open to the public.
In 2006 money was granted by the government to restore the site for historical purposes.
Fort Stewart, Georgia
The claim: Savannah area - FEMA designated detention facility
What it really is: Fort Stewart is a large US Army post, and also trains members of the National Guard there as well. The base also families living there, whom live in military housing units that are typical for bases of such size.
I've also taken a look at the satellite view of the base via Google maps, and none of the buildings there actually look like it something from a prison camp. Everything there looks like what you would typically find on a normal military base.
What it really is: Fort Stewart is a large US Army post, and also trains members of the National Guard there as well. The base also families living there, whom live in military housing units that are typical for bases of such size.
I've also taken a look at the satellite view of the base via Google maps, and none of the buildings there actually look like it something from a prison camp. Everything there looks like what you would typically find on a normal military base.
Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Fort Gillem, Georgia
The claim: South side of Atlanta - FEMA designated detention facility.
What it really is: The base houses many different supply and support units including the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Laboratory and the 3rd MP Group (CID), both units of the United States Army Criminal Investigation Command, and employs 456 active duty Army personnel, 1,663 Army reservist, and 1,667 civilians.
The base itself houses many large buildings there that appear to be warehouses, some of which are right across the street from civilian houses. The base itself is surrounded by the city of Forest Park. It seems unlikely that a FEMA camp could be hidden here.
What it really is: The base houses many different supply and support units including the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Laboratory and the 3rd MP Group (CID), both units of the United States Army Criminal Investigation Command, and employs 456 active duty Army personnel, 1,663 Army reservist, and 1,667 civilians.
The base itself houses many large buildings there that appear to be warehouses, some of which are right across the street from civilian houses. The base itself is surrounded by the city of Forest Park. It seems unlikely that a FEMA camp could be hidden here.
McRae, Telfair County, Georgia
The claim: 1.5 miles west of McRae on Hwy 134 (8th St). Facility is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St., manned & staffed - no prisoners.
What it really is: The only things there that I believe would be mistaken for a FEMA camp is the Telfair State Prison, that was opened in 1992 and holds over 1100 inmates.
The facility is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.
What it really is: The only things there that I believe would be mistaken for a FEMA camp is the Telfair State Prison, that was opened in 1992 and holds over 1100 inmates.
The facility is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.
Abbeville, Georgia
The claim: South of Hawkinsville on US route 129; south of town off route 280 near Ocmulgee River. FEMA facility is staffed but without prisoners.
What it really is: It is the Wilcox State Prison. It is a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, and can hold 1,700 prisoners. The prison is run by the Georgia Department of Correction, and not FEMA.
Hawkinsville, Wilcox County, Georgia
The claim: Five miles east of town, fully manned and staffed but no prisoners. Located on fire road 100/Upper River Road
What it really is: Most likely the facility that is being mistaken for a FEMA camp is the Pulaski State Prison, a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, and houses over 1,200 female inmates.
This prison is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.
What it really is: Most likely the facility that is being mistaken for a FEMA camp is the Pulaski State Prison, a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, and houses over 1,200 female inmates.
This prison is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.
Camilla, Georgia
The claim: Mitchell County, south of Albany. This FEMA facility is located on Mt. Zion Rd approximately 5.7 miles south of Camilla. Unmanned - no prisoners, no staff.
What it really is: First, Mt. Zion Rd is not south of Camilla, it's east of it.
The only buildings around that area that might even come close to being mistaken for a FEMA camp are some long warehouses in a wooded area behind a house that look like they are being used for some storage areas for a farm (as there is a lot of farm land there).
What it really is: First, Mt. Zion Rd is not south of Camilla, it's east of it.
The only buildings around that area that might even come close to being mistaken for a FEMA camp are some long warehouses in a wooded area behind a house that look like they are being used for some storage areas for a farm (as there is a lot of farm land there).
Morgan, Calhoun County, Georgia
The claim: FEMA facility is fully manned & staffed - no prisoners.
What it really is: There is a facility there that is pretty darn big, and even had me confused for a while, but eventually I found out what it was. It is the Calhoun State Prison. It is a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, can hold over 1500 prisoners, and is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.
What it really is: There is a facility there that is pretty darn big, and even had me confused for a while, but eventually I found out what it was. It is the Calhoun State Prison. It is a medium security prison that was opened in 1994, can hold over 1500 prisoners, and is run by the Georgia Department of Corrections.
Oglethorpe, Macon County, Georgia
The claim: facility is located five miles from Montezuma, three miles from Oglethorpe. This FEMA prison has no staff and no prisoners.
What it really is: After reviewing the area on Google maps in satellite mode I've determined that the location that is most likely being mistaken for a FEMA camp are multiple long animal warehouses at a poultry farm owned by Tyson Foods (I.E. giant chicken coups).
What it really is: After reviewing the area on Google maps in satellite mode I've determined that the location that is most likely being mistaken for a FEMA camp are multiple long animal warehouses at a poultry farm owned by Tyson Foods (I.E. giant chicken coups).
Monday, February 11, 2013
Unadilla, Dooly County, Georgia
The claim: Manned, staffed FEMA prison on route 230, no prisoners.
What it really is: After taking a look at the town on Google maps in satellite mode, I believe I have determined three possible locations that are being mistaken for this alleged FEMA camp.
The first one could be Clothing Carnival.
The second one could be Brannen Motor Co.
And the third one could be the local Red Carpet Inn.
What it really is: After taking a look at the town on Google maps in satellite mode, I believe I have determined three possible locations that are being mistaken for this alleged FEMA camp.
The first one could be Clothing Carnival.
The second one could be Brannen Motor Co.
And the third one could be the local Red Carpet Inn.
Ft. Gordon, Georgia
The claim: West of Augusta - No information at this time.
What it really is: It's home of the United States Army Signal Corps, a critical part of military intelligence.
Considering the fact that whomever made this claim didn't even know this about the base, nor do they make any actual claims about the base (including saying they have no information about the place) this leads me to believe that this place was just picked out of random.
What it really is: It's home of the United States Army Signal Corps, a critical part of military intelligence.
Considering the fact that whomever made this claim didn't even know this about the base, nor do they make any actual claims about the base (including saying they have no information about the place) this leads me to believe that this place was just picked out of random.
Ft. McPherson, Georgia
The claim: US Force Command - Multiple reports that this will be the national headquarters and coordinating center for foreign/UN troop movement and detainee collection.
What it really is: Ft. McPherson was a very old army base. In fact several buildings there are now on the National Register of Historic Places.
Opened in 1885, it continued operating until it was finally closed on September 15, 2011, and is now going to be used for public use. In fact 150 acres are going to be converted into green space for a park, and several housing are actually going to be used for low income housing, and even housing for the homeless.
There are several other things I could go into about what the fort is going to used for, but what I can tell you what it will not be used for is a command for the UN.
What it really is: Ft. McPherson was a very old army base. In fact several buildings there are now on the National Register of Historic Places.
Opened in 1885, it continued operating until it was finally closed on September 15, 2011, and is now going to be used for public use. In fact 150 acres are going to be converted into green space for a park, and several housing are actually going to be used for low income housing, and even housing for the homeless.
There are several other things I could go into about what the fort is going to used for, but what I can tell you what it will not be used for is a command for the UN.
Ft. Benning, Georgia
The claim: Located east of Columbus near Alabama state line. Rex 84 site - Prisoners brought in via Lawson Army airfield.
What it really is: Ft. Benning is a huge army base, and currently supports more than 120,000 active-duty military personal, their family members, reserve component soldiers, retirees, and civilian employees.
After using Google maps in satellite mode (and street mode when available) I could only find a few buildings that might be mistaken for a prison, but upon closure examination I found out they were actually garages and warehouses for holding military equipment and vehicles.
Considering the fact that so many people are there (many being civilians) and the fact that it is right next to a major city (Columbus) it seems highly unlikely that this would be the site of a FEMA camp, or that such a site could be hidden here in the first place.
Also it should be noted that it is unknown if this was a Rex 84 site (or if there were any Rex 84 sites to begin with).
What it really is: Ft. Benning is a huge army base, and currently supports more than 120,000 active-duty military personal, their family members, reserve component soldiers, retirees, and civilian employees.
After using Google maps in satellite mode (and street mode when available) I could only find a few buildings that might be mistaken for a prison, but upon closure examination I found out they were actually garages and warehouses for holding military equipment and vehicles.
Considering the fact that so many people are there (many being civilians) and the fact that it is right next to a major city (Columbus) it seems highly unlikely that this would be the site of a FEMA camp, or that such a site could be hidden here in the first place.
Also it should be noted that it is unknown if this was a Rex 84 site (or if there were any Rex 84 sites to begin with).
Friday, February 8, 2013
Ft. Carson, Colorado
The claim: Along route 115 near Canon City
What it really is: After doing some investigation using Google maps I have found the building in the general location that I believe is the one being mistaken for a FEMA camp. The building is called the Cross Roads Arena and Event Center.
What it really is: After doing some investigation using Google maps I have found the building in the general location that I believe is the one being mistaken for a FEMA camp. The building is called the Cross Roads Arena and Event Center.
Granada, Prowers County, Colorado
The claim: WWII Japanese internment camp
What it really is: Yes, there was a Japanese internment camp there. All but one of the original buildings there were torn down or removed, and the site itself is now described as a desolate and lonely place.
In 2006 the site was named a National Historic Landmark. Also in 2006 President George W. Bush signed into law H.R. 1492 granting $38,000,000 to preserve and restore the site and nine other Japanese internment camps for historical and educational purposes.
What it really is: Yes, there was a Japanese internment camp there. All but one of the original buildings there were torn down or removed, and the site itself is now described as a desolate and lonely place.
In 2006 the site was named a National Historic Landmark. Also in 2006 President George W. Bush signed into law H.R. 1492 granting $38,000,000 to preserve and restore the site and nine other Japanese internment camps for historical and educational purposes.
Trinidad, Colorado
The claim: WWII German/Italian camp being renovated.
What it really is: Yes, there was a World War Two German/Italian POW camp there. The claim about the camp being renovated is false. It's now pretty much an open field there, and what structures there that are left are dilapidated and crumbling apart.
What it really is: Yes, there was a World War Two German/Italian POW camp there. The claim about the camp being renovated is false. It's now pretty much an open field there, and what structures there that are left are dilapidated and crumbling apart.
Honolulu, Hawaii
The claim: Detention transfer facility at the Honolulu airport similar in construction to the one in.Oklahoma (pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up to).
What it really is: Using Google Maps satellite view of the airport, and I can not find any pentagon shaped building there at all, neither on the public part, nor the military controlled part.
This claim is bogus.
What it really is: Using Google Maps satellite view of the airport, and I can not find any pentagon shaped building there at all, neither on the public part, nor the military controlled part.
This claim is bogus.
Barbers Point NAS, Hawaii
The claim: There are several military areas that could be equipped for detention / deportation.
What it really is: The navy and marine air station, the Naval Air Station Barbers Point, was closed in the 1990's, and the only military presence there today is a few planes and helicopters there that are operated by the US Coast Guard. It should also be noted that it is the only Coast Guard Air Station within the 14th United States Coast Guard District.
The site itself is now called the Kalaeloa Airport, and is open to the public. Other then the Coast Guard, there is no military presence there.
What it really is: The navy and marine air station, the Naval Air Station Barbers Point, was closed in the 1990's, and the only military presence there today is a few planes and helicopters there that are operated by the US Coast Guard. It should also be noted that it is the only Coast Guard Air Station within the 14th United States Coast Guard District.
The site itself is now called the Kalaeloa Airport, and is open to the public. Other then the Coast Guard, there is no military presence there.
Halawa Heights area, Hawaii
The claim: Crematory facility located in hills above city. Area is marked as a state department of health laboratory.
What it really is: This location is a laboratory run by the state department of health. In 2005 the laboratory began upgrading to Biosafety level-3 (which is the second highest Biosafety level). Because of this having an onsite crematorium for the facility makes perfectly logical sense as you don't have to take hazardous biological material off site and run the risk of it accidentally being released into the population, and just destroy it right then and there. In fact most onsite laboratories such as this usually do have their own onsite crematoriums for such this reason.
What it really is: This location is a laboratory run by the state department of health. In 2005 the laboratory began upgrading to Biosafety level-3 (which is the second highest Biosafety level). Because of this having an onsite crematorium for the facility makes perfectly logical sense as you don't have to take hazardous biological material off site and run the risk of it accidentally being released into the population, and just destroy it right then and there. In fact most onsite laboratories such as this usually do have their own onsite crematoriums for such this reason.
Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Buffalo, New York
The claim: FEMA detention facility.
What it really is: Besides being the second largest city in the State of New York, it's also a major port for the Great Lakes, and also contains multiple railway lines going into the city. There are many warehouses there, and any one of them could be mistaken for a FEMA camp or detention facility to anyone who thinks that such places are real.
What it really is: Besides being the second largest city in the State of New York, it's also a major port for the Great Lakes, and also contains multiple railway lines going into the city. There are many warehouses there, and any one of them could be mistaken for a FEMA camp or detention facility to anyone who thinks that such places are real.
Otisville, New York
The claim: Federal correctional facility, near Middletown.
This is true: This is true. There is a Federal correctional facility called the Federal Correctional Institution, Otisville. It's a medium security prison, with a minimum security prison camp. The prison holds 1,775 prisoners, with the camp itself holding 124 inmates.
There is also a state run prison there only a quarter mile away from the Federal prison call the Otisville Correctional Facility, and is also medium security as well.
This is all public information.
This is true: This is true. There is a Federal correctional facility called the Federal Correctional Institution, Otisville. It's a medium security prison, with a minimum security prison camp. The prison holds 1,775 prisoners, with the camp itself holding 124 inmates.
There is also a state run prison there only a quarter mile away from the Federal prison call the Otisville Correctional Facility, and is also medium security as well.
This is all public information.
Albany, New York
The claim: FEMA detention facility.
What it really is: There's not much details about this claim, other then stating that there is an alleged FEMA detention facility.
The city does have a large river port with multiple warehouses, and also has a booming high-tech industry and health care industry, so it's that one of these places that house these industries could be mistaken by someone with an untrained eye (and paranoid mind) for some type of FEMA camp or detention center.
What it really is: There's not much details about this claim, other then stating that there is an alleged FEMA detention facility.
The city does have a large river port with multiple warehouses, and also has a booming high-tech industry and health care industry, so it's that one of these places that house these industries could be mistaken by someone with an untrained eye (and paranoid mind) for some type of FEMA camp or detention center.
Sunday, February 3, 2013
Ft. Drum, New York
The claim: two compounds: Rex 84 detention camp and FEMA detention facility.
What it really is: First let me ask this: why would there be two different detention camps run by two different groups, especially when they're doing the exact same thing? It makes far more sense to have one compound run by one group.
Anyways, the army base itself is huge, and contains nearly 13,000 people there at any given time, and is used to train up to 80,000 troops there annually.
The base also has a large amount of housing for military families, and employment opportunities for civilians as well.
The base borders several towns, and several other towns actually have parts of their townships within the base itself.
Considering all of this, it would be pretty hard to hide one prison camp there, much less two.
What it really is: First let me ask this: why would there be two different detention camps run by two different groups, especially when they're doing the exact same thing? It makes far more sense to have one compound run by one group.
Anyways, the army base itself is huge, and contains nearly 13,000 people there at any given time, and is used to train up to 80,000 troops there annually.
The base also has a large amount of housing for military families, and employment opportunities for civilians as well.
The base borders several towns, and several other towns actually have parts of their townships within the base itself.
Considering all of this, it would be pretty hard to hide one prison camp there, much less two.
Malmstrom AFB, Montana
The claim: UN aircraft groups stationed here, and possibly a detention facility.
What it really is: It's a major base with about 3,500 people living on base (and this has been decreasing), and not just military personal either, but families as well, including families with children.
The claim that UN air groups are stationed their is apparently a bogus, and after reviewing a satellite photo of the base using Google Maps the claim that a detention facility is there is also by all appearances bogus as well. None of the buildings look like anything that you wouldn't find on an Air Force base, and a detention facility would be pretty hard to hide there in the first place because it's in a very open place, with a town right next to it. There are no mountains or heavily wooded areas on the base, nor really any places to hide a detention facility at.
What it really is: It's a major base with about 3,500 people living on base (and this has been decreasing), and not just military personal either, but families as well, including families with children.
The claim that UN air groups are stationed their is apparently a bogus, and after reviewing a satellite photo of the base using Google Maps the claim that a detention facility is there is also by all appearances bogus as well. None of the buildings look like anything that you wouldn't find on an Air Force base, and a detention facility would be pretty hard to hide there in the first place because it's in a very open place, with a town right next to it. There are no mountains or heavily wooded areas on the base, nor really any places to hide a detention facility at.
Houlton, Maine
The claim: WWII German internment camp in Northern Maine, off US Route 1.
What it really is: Yes, a German POW camp was there during World War Two, and was a part of the Houlton Army Air Base. At it's peak the internment camp held 3,700 prisoners.
The base (along with the interment camp) was closed in 1946, and is now the site of the Houlton International Airport.
What it really is: Yes, a German POW camp was there during World War Two, and was a part of the Houlton Army Air Base. At it's peak the internment camp held 3,700 prisoners.
The base (along with the interment camp) was closed in 1946, and is now the site of the Houlton International Airport.
Saturday, February 2, 2013
Fort Douglas, Utah
The claim: This "inactive" military reservation has a renovated WWII concentration camp.
What it really is: The base closed in 1991, although it was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1975.
Most of buildings there were turned over to, and are now being used by the University of Utah. The former base also has it's own military museum there as well, which the Utah National Guard still maintains control of.
The base was used as a interment camp, but it was in World War One, and held German Americans.
What it really is: The base closed in 1991, although it was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1975.
Most of buildings there were turned over to, and are now being used by the University of Utah. The former base also has it's own military museum there as well, which the Utah National Guard still maintains control of.
The base was used as a interment camp, but it was in World War One, and held German Americans.
Wendover, Utah
The claim: WWII internment camp may be renovated.
What it really is: There was no interment camp there. There was however a major Air Force base there, but it was closed down in 1965, and in 1975 the base was officially listed on the National Register of Historic Places. In 1977 the land was deeded to the City of Wendover, and is now used as a civilian airport.
What it really is: There was no interment camp there. There was however a major Air Force base there, but it was closed down in 1965, and in 1975 the base was officially listed on the National Register of Historic Places. In 1977 the land was deeded to the City of Wendover, and is now used as a civilian airport.
Friday, February 1, 2013
Cedar City, Utah
The claim: east of city - no data available.
What it really is: I can find nothing that would resemble a prison camp east of the city. Closet I can even come to would maybe be a few small warehouses.
What it really is: I can find nothing that would resemble a prison camp east of the city. Closet I can even come to would maybe be a few small warehouses.
Migratory Bird Refuge, Utah
The claim: West of Brigham City - contains a WWII internment camp that was built before the game preserve was established.
What it really is: What is true about this claim is that there is a migratory bird refuge west of Brigham City. What is not true is that a World War 2 internment camp was located in there.
There is a defense depot located in near by Ogden, that was used a POW camp during World War 2. The depot site itself was closed down in 1997, and while some buildings are still used by government agencies, the site has mostly been converted into a commercial and industrial park.
What it really is: What is true about this claim is that there is a migratory bird refuge west of Brigham City. What is not true is that a World War 2 internment camp was located in there.
There is a defense depot located in near by Ogden, that was used a POW camp during World War 2. The depot site itself was closed down in 1997, and while some buildings are still used by government agencies, the site has mostly been converted into a commercial and industrial park.
Skull Valley, Utah
The claim: southwestern Camp William property - east of the
old bombing range. Camp was accidentally discovered by a man and his son
who were rabbit hunting; they were discovered and apprehended. SW of
Tooele.
What it really is: Camp William is a National Guard training site operated by the Utah National Guard. I've taken a look at the site on Google maps and there are no unusual buildings there, and nothing that looks like a prison camp.
As for the claim that a father and his son were apprehended while rabbit hunting on the base, that story is entirely possible since the base is out in the wilderness, and it is not open to the public (considering they do live fire training there, that would make logical sense). Assuming the story is even true to begin with, it's most likely just the result of misidentification, coupled with prejudice due to a negative experience.
What it really is: Camp William is a National Guard training site operated by the Utah National Guard. I've taken a look at the site on Google maps and there are no unusual buildings there, and nothing that looks like a prison camp.
As for the claim that a father and his son were apprehended while rabbit hunting on the base, that story is entirely possible since the base is out in the wilderness, and it is not open to the public (considering they do live fire training there, that would make logical sense). Assuming the story is even true to begin with, it's most likely just the result of misidentification, coupled with prejudice due to a negative experience.
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